Monday, May 17, 2010

Why do wrestlers think they can beat up someone who has had martial arts training?

Wrestling is all fake and scripted. Martial arts is real.|||they like to squeeze each others nuts till submission|||This answer is horrible and probably violates TOS Report Abuse
|||Martial arts such as karate or tae kwon do do not typically teach the important skill of grappling, so naturally a wrestler would have a serious edge in that case. Concurrently, though, wrestlers do not train in striking (except MMA), so they would be at a disadvantage when attempting such an exchange. The average wrestler is going to be better conditioned than the average martial artist.





The big problem in testing the theory is the chance of injury. With wrestling, you can fool around with someone while trying your best and your training partner is not likely to be injured. If you try to mess around while striking full speed, someone is going to get hurt.





To answer the question, it is about pride and machismo. Just as a karate black belt will feel a twinge of invicibility and that his/her style of combat is superior, so too will a wrestler have a comparable ego. As you are probably aware, real combat is not about what looks good on paper. Our prison systems are filled with people who either have killed or seriously injured black belts, or had the capacity to do so with no training but street experience. Just about anything can happen in a real combat situation.|||Before I get started, let me point out that I do not think that wrestling is a better fighting system than this ubiquitous term martial arts that you are comparing it to.





Martial arts is an athletic endeavor like anything else. However, not everyone who participates in martial arts has tremendous athletic ability. There are no tryouts or cuts per say. Wrestling is more competitive and its participants tend to be more physically fit and possess more athletic ability when compared to the average martial artist. Therefore, many wrestlers have the ability to best a number of martial artists on shear athletic ability and conditioning alone.





The next issue is that before headbutts where outlawed in UFC wrestlers had become the undisputed rulers of the sport. They were essentially very effective one trick ponies. Wrestlers would take an opponent down and hold them there. From there, the wrestlers would proceed to elbow an opponent with a free arm or headbutt the opponent if the opponent managed to tie-up the wrestlers arms. This trend continued with seemingly no end in sight until the headbutt was outlawed. Here again though it was world-class wrestlers (often) a year or two removed from their prime going against lesser quality martial arts athletes.|||well there are real wretlers not all the wrestlers are like in WWE


for example Randy Couture or chuch lidell were former UFC champs and also olimpic wretlers .


there are 2 kinds of wrestlres: spectacule wretlers like Jhon Cena and Olimpic %26quot;real%26quot; wrestlers like chuck lidell





I think real wrestlers could have some advantage against SOME TRADITIONAL martial artists because some of them arent get used to fight on the ground.





In the other hand many traditional martial arts like judo or jujitsu are specialized in ground techniques so in that case the advantage of the wrestling disapears|||It depends what type of wrestling you%26#039;re referring to. Pro wrestling like WWE is scripted, but it takes a lot of athleticism and strenght to compete/act. Amateur wrestling is real and is based on Greco-Roman and freestyle wrestling. This takes a lot of skill and strenght to take down your opponent, pin them and on occassion apply submission holds. The reason amateur wreslters believe they can beat up a Karate black belt is because the aim of the wrestler is to take down the Karate dude. By doing so, the wrestler nullifies the strenght of the Karate dude in stand up. Unless the Karate dude knows how to defend on the ground, he%26#039;ll get beat up. Just look at early UFC events. In deed, styles make fights. It all depends who goes up against who.|||Do you mean real Wrestling or fake Wrestling?





Real Wrestling is actually pretty good. My martial arts friends who did Wrestling in high school have really good balance and are pretty hard to take down and are good grapplers. If I need to practice a technique, I do it on them to see if it really works.





As far as them beating a Karateka, it depends on the individuals.|||well.. if you%26#039;re talking about professional wrestlers, they are really, really big. and some of them have actually wrestled amateur in the past. also, being a black belt in a martial art only means you understand the basics. so, if a 5%26#039;10%26quot;, 190 pound first degree black belt were to be involved in a confrontation with a 6%26#039;6%26quot;, 280 lb professional wrestler, i would say the wrestler has a good shot and overpowering and pounding the black belt handily|||Wrestlers think that they can beat martial artists because they are athletic, disciplined, and mixed arts competitions have proven that their style is extremely effective. [Real Wrestling]





WW %26quot;Wrasslers%26quot; think that they can beat martial artists because juicing provides an inflated sense of confidence (in trade for deflated scrotum). [TV Sports Entertainment]|||ok lets git it Straight freestyle wrestling is scripted not fake i have done a little and actually know what i am talking about. i have also done gecko roman styles shoot fighting and mat wrestling in high school. by the way you need to realizes most pro wrestlers train in different martial arts i would not have any trouble wrestling a first degree karate black belt. oh waite i have a black belt in karate not to mention 3 kick boxing titles extensive training in savate american boxing and judo. remember what scripted means. both people know what happens next. now if there are no more questions i am gonna go beat myself up and end this once and for all.|||it depends on the type of martial arts. like if you have a ground based style, fighting a wrestler can be an issue, especially if they are good. On the other hand, if you fight in a style that trains you NOT to go the ground (like mine, Shaolin Kempo) then they dont have a chance.





i cant respect wrestlers.. as fighters i mean.|||If you are talking about collegiate, freestyle, and greco roman wrestling, it%26#039;s because the athleticism and combative intuition developed from years of training immediately lend themselves to certain aspects fighting. As for WWF or what ever you call it, I couldn%26#039;t fend for them...|||Misconception.





Look up Sean O%26#039;haire against Butterbean, or Bam Bam Bigelow against Kimo Leopoldo.





They got a dosis of reality check.





Now, if you are talking about Greco-Roman or freestyle wrestling, then it%26#039;s different, as that%26#039;s actually a great system for actual combat.|||Who are you talking about, exactly?





Ken Shamrock (shoot wrestling, pro wrestling) vs. Bas Rutten (5th degree Kyokushin Karate black belt).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h1WWwtLW...





Yeah, so much for your dare.|||Everyone beat me to it.|||hahahahaha........because they can..|||Because ignorance is bliss....this was the arguement before MMA about taking a Karate guy to the ground...many tried...few have succeede.|||its all subjective|||because its fake....





wwf is waaaay fake!!!!!!!|||lol they can wrelen is one of the most toughies sport

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