Saturday, November 14, 2009

How come I can never see akidio martial arts in a mma fight?

I here it is one of the best martial arts but i only see demonstrations, I never see any factual evidence.|||You won%26#039;t ever see Aikido in a mixed martial arts fight, as the art is not meant to be competitive. There are no winners or losers in Aikido, only the uke (the recipient/attacker) and nage (the giver/defender). The ensuing %26quot;battle%26quot; is a physical manifestation of Aikido%26#039;s worldview, the unification of Ki, or energy, that mimics the world around us. It is similar to pushing hands in Taijiquan in that regard.





Aikido is more interested in transforming the perceptions of and interactions with other people than it is in winning a fight. Its highest goal is a transformation of self.|||Sigh. People should learn what Aikido is before they answer. Aikido techniques do work outside the dojo, and they do not require participation by the opponent. Aikidokas generally %26quot;go along%26quot; with techniques, because they know if they don%26#039;t it could very well result in injury/destruction of their joints (I know first hand).





The reason it is difficult to employ pure Aikido in a match is because Aiki is centered around harmonizing with your opponents%26#039; momentum. In a match, most fighters aren%26#039;t stupid enough to come full tilt, haymaker-swinging at an opponent, because it%26#039;s too overcommitted. When fighters strike, they generally do it in a way where they are still protected and balanced. Now obviously, an Aikidoka is going to need other tricks in his bag, such as striking, to compete in mixed martial arts. But if an opponent came with something like a big tackle, then an Aikido technique could definitely be applied here (hiki).





However, it should be possible to use Aikijutsu, from which Aikido descends. A skilled Aikijutsu practitioner would have a chance to employ the joint-lock techniques he knows, even during a fight, because the style isn%26#039;t as centered on overcommitted attacks as Aikido is. But he would have to be pretty fast with proficient use of atemi, and the gloves may get in the way for some of the wrist techniques.





EDIT: mac1hull, are all of those locks and techniques really banned? I love Shiho nage...|||because aikido absolutely sucks|||true Aikido is not a fighting art so to speak. Its more of a spiritual internal style art form that is based on Aiki-jujitsu, a Samurai art form.|||There are Aikido guys going into MMA once in a while but they don%26#039;t seem to stay there, iv definately seen posters advertiseing Aikido fighters in MMA bouts so there are guys out there fighting





Oh yeah, I have no idea how well they do but|||For someone in Aikido to enter into a MMA match they would need to have studied other arts as well. Aikido does work, but it%26#039;s not as effective as some seem to think.|||well for one the Aikidoka couldnt use 80% of the techniques learned because they are intended to mess you up for life, if not kill you.


so why would any Aikidoka want to fight if they couldnt use 100% of what they knew. %26quot;And I know that there are going to be ppl on here that say Aikido sucks it isnt any good blah,blah,blah.that is because they have never really seen true Aikido techniques and what they can do to ppl.Or even taken Aikido for that matter%26quot;. But going back to ur question if they would drop the rules any thing go then you would prob see more Aikidoka go on TV and fight and make there bank accounts full.|||It would be very difficult for an Akido practioner to execute his moves in a paperview event or other exhibition with hundreds of thousands of viewers. The reason is because the fighters that have fought their way to get to this point are very good at what they do. You simply cannot interrupt how good they are with a style that is not designed for fighting and futhermore not for fighting other fighters. You also cannot incorporate akido into MMA fighting becuase it requires participation on behalf of the opponent. Akido has leverage principles will not effect a balanced well conditioned athletic fighter. You simply cannot grab their wrist and toss them.|||I studied hapkido which is TKD + aikido. For the aikido aspect, is dissapointing, everything is staged. A martial art for self defense yet not intended to put to use. It is also extremly defensive, works better with people who don%26#039;t know MA and thus get surprised. It takes a blackbelt+ to really put things to work in this MA which needs lots of perfectionism.|||The reason is because alot of Aikido techniques don%26#039;t work outside of the dojo (Except for the more harder styles like Tomiki Aikido, etc). In REAL fights, people resist with all their might if you try to grapple them. They don%26#039;t just stand there and let you put the hold on them, so THAT IS WHY you can%26#039;t get to use alot of the techniques realistically. That is why alot of people prefer not to use that aspect of Aikido while fighting.





Another reason is because the full art of Aikido (Well, up til black belt rather) takes years to learn. MMA fighters need a quick art to learn within a few months for their upcoming fights. However, alot of Aiki techniques can be learned within a few days such as some evasions.





Alot of the Aiki principles can work VERY well for MMA competitions though, it will especially work against those fighters who like to %26quot;Shoot%26quot; at their opponent. It%26#039;s just a matter of using what works and what doesn%26#039;t for the fight.





I don%26#039;t know why they don%26#039;t use aiki principles (Not the ones I just spoke against above though), but it%26#039;s up to the individual fighter to decide what or what not to use though, so you really can%26#039;t blame anyone for what they choose. If they wanna f*ck up and use force against force, then that%26#039;s up to them.|||The reason is that MMA bans certain techniques like wrist locks (Kata Ha Dori) or finger locks (Ubi dori) which are important in Aikido.





MMA also bans standing arm twists (Gokyo) and elbow locks (Shiho Nage) which are also central to Aikido techniques.





MMA also bans: pressure points, spear hand techniqes, and all other effective techniques that really work in a street fight.





Aikido is a nasty and effective style which also teaches weapons usage, weapons defense, and multiple attack defense which MMA has never taught and does not teach nor practice. Aiki%26#039;do%26#039; was developed from Aiki%26#039;jutsu%26#039; the way Ju%26#039;do%26#039; was developed from Ju%26#039;jitsu. Aikido is a watered down version of Aikijitsu.|||OK some of those answers are right. the moves that aikido uses require the opponent to be close enough to grab. this works well in a street fight but not against a fighter who uses distance or angles. if the aikido guy learns to fight against that then he could close the gap and use some of the moves. wrist locks are not illegal in the ufc but impossible to get. the wrists of fighters are wrapped very tights so the do not bent when they hit so this takes a lot aikido throws out of the picture since that is one of the main pivot points when preforming a throw. I%26#039;m a mma fighter I plan on some day learning some of the techniques. there is a very very good one to get out of the Thai clinch. Yes Aikido does show a lot of demonstrations but they do practice freely with one guy trying to get out. some times they get the throw and some times they don%26#039;t

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